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What is the difference between auf vs für (1)

YukoM2

November 29, 2018

What is the difference between auf vs für ?

What is the difference between auf vs für (2)

70Augsburg

November 29, 2018

für always means "for". auf has a variety of meanings that includes on, to, in, at, onto, upon, toward depending on the verb used and expressions.

What is the difference between auf vs für (3)

Leah-Rocket-German-Tutor

December 5, 2018

Hallo YukoM2,

Vielen Dank für deine Frage.
As AusAugsburg correctly explained, für means for. Ich backe einen Kuchen für meine Mutter. (I'm baking a cake for my mother.)

The preposition auf can mean on, at, to, in, onto or upon. For example:
Ich steige auf das Dach. (I climb on onto the roof.)
Wir gehen auf das Oktoberfest. (We go to the Oktoberfest.)

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Certain prepositions go with specific cases (accusative, dative or genitive case).
Für always makes the following noun an accusative.
Auf is a little bit more complicated. When the meaning is onto or to it goes with an accusative, when the meaning is on, at, in or upon it goes with a dative case.

You can find a whole lesson on prepositions like these on Level 3, Language & Culture lessons (Module 20) of Rocket German.

Liebe Grüße,
Leah von Rocket Languages

What is the difference between auf vs für (4)

sfpugh

December 6, 2018

Hallo Leah
Why do use auf in your example"We gotothe Oktoberfest"?
Why notWir gehen zumOktoberfest?
I find choosing the right preposition very tricky.
Simon

What is the difference between auf vs für (5)

sfpugh

December 6, 2018

Whilst we are on accusative versus dative, how about this from level 2, 9.1

"Ich war mit einer Freundin im Kino.

I went to the movies with a girlfriend."

Whyimhere, if you went to the cinema isn't that motion towards? So why notins Kino?
Doesn't what is written implythat you were simplyat the cinema, oris this a case of"that's just how Germans say it"

What is the difference between auf vs für (6)

Leah-Rocket-German-Tutor

December 6, 2018

Guten Tag Simon,

on your first comment: You could translate to with zum here. In Germany, we tend to use auf for special events. Example:
"Wir gehen auf eine Party."
"Ich gehe auf die Kirmes (= fair)."
"Er geht auf das Fest."

But you could also say:
"Wir gehen zur Party."
"Ich gehe zur Kirmes."
"Er geht zum Fest."

On your comment on Level 2, 9.1: A more literal translation of "Ich war mit einer Freundin im Kino." would be "I was at the movies with a girlfriend."- Im here means at.
However this translation does sound slightly odd in English, which is why we went for the less literal, but better translation.

To translate the sentence "I went to the movies with a girlfriend." more literal you could say in German: "Ich ging mit einer Freundin ins Kino." - However that in turn would sound a bit odd to a German.

So yes, basically it is a case of "that's just how Germans say it" ;)

Liebe Grüße,
Leah von Rocket Languages

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What is the difference between auf vs für (7)

sfpugh

December 7, 2018

OK, thank you for the explanation Leah. Do think that adding the literal translation in brackets would help, as has been done for some other confusing phrases in the course.

In fact one of the weaknesses of the course is that there are quite a few instances where free translations are given without any indication that this has been done.

What is the difference between auf vs für (8)

Leah-Rocket-German-Tutor

December 9, 2018

Hallo Simon,

thanks for the suggestion. In fact we are currently in the process of reviewing Rocket German. We'll definitely take your feedback into account.

Liebe Grüße,
Leah von Rocket Languages

What is the difference between auf vs für (9)

sfpugh

December 10, 2018

OK thanks Leah. Another topic I found very confusing was modal particles.
I know that the use of modal particles is an advanced topic and not suitable fro beginners but on the other hand they crop up frequently in levels 2 and 3.

I think ja and denn are the most frequent, I was very confused by them as they didn't seem to be required for the meaning of the sentences. Then I found and "Easy German" video about them on youtube.

It would be nice if a way could be found to at least let people know what is going with out unbalancing the course with such an advanced subject.

A couple of examples
Das ist ja interessant.
Worum geht es denn?

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What is the difference between auf vs für (10)

Leah-Rocket-German-Tutor

December 11, 2018

Danke für dein Feedback, Simon.
I will forward that to our Product Development team as well.

Bis bald,
Leah von Rocket Languages

What is the difference between auf vs für (11)

YukoM2

December 12, 2018

thank you for explanation. however, the problem is that i have to keep coming here to ask specific questions. why not explain the grammar for why things are the way it is for each lesson? that way, we have the conversation, the grammar is explained, and I dont have to keep coming here to get my answer.

what this app lacks is explanation for why things are done the way it is. for lesson 2, for example you have to go go module 6 to get an explanation. how are we supposed to know that? and even in module 6, it's not explained in terms of the conversation.

in the beginning, all was good, but now im getting so frustrated with this app that i dont even want to go on with the lessons. It jumps from easy to difficult very quickly and im scratching my head here.

No use if all the app wants us to do is memorize the conversation. I need to know why it is the way it is. for that, at the moment, I have to go out of the app and search and/or come to this forum to ask. i find that ridiculous. total waste of my time and energy.

the whole purpose of getting an app or course is that t's all there in one package. I hope you fix this. i would have asked for my money back but it's past the 60 days so i can't. my friends have asked me about your courses and i tell them i dont recommend purchasing it.

in any case, please look into this. it's a fundamental flaw and something so basic that a language course should have. im surprised it wasn't taken into consideration.

What is the difference between auf vs für (12)

YukoM2

December 12, 2018

Also u sayYou can find a whole lesson on prepositions like these on Level 3, Language & Culture lessons (Module 20) of Rocket German.

How would I have known that without you telling me? Why does it jump to Module 20 for lesson 3? There should be an explanation for every lesson in terms of the conversation we are learning.

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What is the difference between auf vs für (13)

70Augsburg

December 12, 2018

Two comments, one specific and one general.

1. Specific - I came across an expression where auf can also mean "for". That is when it is used with the verb warten so the translation of auf warten is "to wait for".

2. General - There are so many nuances in the grammar of a language, it is next to impossible to blend them simultaneously into a course focused on learning conversation and building vocabulary. It is best to either bookmark a German grammar site or several, for example, one for prepositions and another for particles (which I found to be very challenging) or purchase a book like Lwngenscheidt's "German Grammar in a Nutshell" which I also keep handy. Another advantages of doing these things is that if later in the course you need to reference or brush up on something you come across in grammar, you don't have to search through the course to find it.

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Leah-Rocket-German-Tutor

December 13, 2018

Hallo YuKoM2,

many thanks for your feedback on the course. I will forward this to our Product Development team, who are currently working on improving the course's structure and content. I'm sorry to hear you are currently not happy with the course.

Hallo Flakkaseren,

thank you for sharing your way of learning with us!
On your specific question: that is, in fact, true - the expression "warten auf" can be translated with "to wait for". Like in English there are certain verbs in German that require a specific preposition. Those cases have to be learnt by heart - because these phrases often differ from the literal translation into English. Another case would be "sich interessieren für" - "to be interested in".

Hope that helps.

Liebe Grüße,
Leah von Rocket Languages

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What is the difference between AUF and an? ›

When do you use auf, and when do you use an? Auf is always used when something is resting on something else that is horizontal, and an is used when something is resting on something vertical: auf dem Tisch – on the table (horizontal) but an der Wand – on the wall (vertical).

What is the meaning of Auf? ›

Means: on, on top of. Examples: Die Backerei ist auf der Hauptstraße.

Is auf a two way preposition? ›

Two-way prepositions require nouns either in the accusative case or in the dative case. There are 10 two-way prepositions: an, auf, hinter, in, neben, entlang, über, unter, vor, zwischen.

What case does auf take? ›

auf is a two-way-preposition. The Dative expresses that something is on top of something and Accusative tells us that on top of something is the destination of the action. Die Katze sitzt auf dem Tisch.

How do you use fur in German? ›

The preposition “für” in German also means “for” in a timely manner. However, we use it in a different sense. If you use “für”, you would like to express that something has started and finished. Unlike “seit” the action has already stopped and does not continue.

What is the difference between Auf Wiedersehen? ›

He said that although it was sad to be saying goodbye and leaving, we needed to remember that it was auf Wiedersehen and not tschüss. The translations of auf Wiedersehen and tschüss both appear to be goodbye, but auf Wiedersehen implies that you will be seeing someone again. Wiedersehen means to see again.

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– Auf Wiedersehen! The formal expression for saying goodbye is used with unfamiliar adults, in business situations, with officials, and when shopping.

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a phrase, originally from France, used for showing surprise, admiration, or excitement about something, especially when referring to something that is connected with France or French people, or when something of a sexual nature is involved: Someone actually said "ooh la la" when they saw his new barbecue.

Is für a preposition? ›

Take note: Für is an accusative preposition, so it is therefore always followed by the accusative.

What are the 3 prepositions? ›

There are three types of prepositions, including time prepositions, place prepositions, and direction prepositions.

What are the 3 types of prepositions? ›

The different types of prepositions are: Prepositions of Place. Prepositions of Time. Prepositions of Direction.

Is für a dative preposition? ›

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Subject Pronouns-I R Verb Endings-
Il, elle, onI T
NousI S S O N S
VousI S S E Z
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Does auf take the accusative in German? ›

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What does Auf Wiedersehen actually mean? ›

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How do you use Auf Wiedersehen in a sentence? ›

a German expression that is used to say "goodbye": "Auf Wiedersehen," he said. Newspapers in the Czech Republic yesterday carried photos of soccer fans chanting " Auf wiedersehen!" in the streets of Prague as they celebrated victory over Germany. We bid "Auf wiedersehen" to Germany.

Where is Auf Wiedersehen used? ›

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Serrurerie

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How do you say hello in German formal? ›

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  • On.
  • At.
  • In.
  • Near.
  • Over.
  • Among.
  • Of.
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What is a in German? ›

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What are the 5 prepositions in French? ›

10 Essential French Prepositions
  • 1 – à (to, at, in + city). ...
  • 2 – de (from, of, about). ...
  • 3 – chez (at/to someone's place). ...
  • 4 – en (in, by). ...
  • 5 – sur ≠ sous (on ≠ under). ...
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What are the 49 prepositions? ›

Preposition List: 49 Examples
PrepositionExample Sentence
BeneathSome people believe the lost city of Atlantis is still buried beneath the sea.
BesideThe bride made her way down the aisle to stand beside her groom.
BetweenBetween my homework and my new job, I don't think I'll be getting much sleep this week.
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What are the 45 prepositions? ›

Here is a list of the 45 most common English prepositions, with their main uses and examples.
  • about (connection, cause, direction) ...
  • above (place – higher than) ...
  • across (direction) ...
  • after (time, sequence) ...
  • against (contrast, location) ...
  • along (movement, location) ...
  • among (location, belonging) ...
  • around / round (location, direction)

What are 5 examples of prepositions? ›

"beneath," "beside," "between," "from," "in front of," "inside," "near," "off," "out of," "through," "toward," "under," and "within." The post office is across the street from the grocery store. We will stop at many attractions along the way.

What are the 12 prepositions? ›

Here is a list of commonly used prepositions: above, across, against, along, among, around, at, before, behind, below, beneath, beside, between, by, down, from, in, into, near, of, off, on, to, toward, under, upon, with and within.

What are the 48 prepositions? ›

List of 48 Commonly Used Prepositions
aboutbehindfrom
acrossbeneathinto
afterbesidelike
againstbetweennear
alongbeyondnext to
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What case is für in German? ›

Für is one of our accusative prepositions, so it signals that the next noun in the sentence (der Mann) should be in the accusative case. And because der Mann is a masculine noun, it changes to den Mann. Ich gehe um den Park. I go around the park.

What are the 9 prepositions in German? ›

The 9 German prepositions that always require that the noun in the phrase be in the dative case are aus, außer, bei, mit, nach, seit, von, zu, gegenüber. Prepositions do NOT have tidy 1-to-1 English-German translations and must be learned within authentic spoken/written German context.

Is Elle's feminine? ›

Use ils for masculine nouns and elles for feminine nouns.

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lower explosion limit (lel) limite inférieure d'explosivité

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How old are you? (informal) – Quel âge as-tu ? How old are you? (formal) – Quel âge avez-vous?

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The 5 German prepositions that always require that the noun in the phrase be in the accusative case are durch, für, gegen, ohne, um.

What is an example of a accusative? ›

For example, the pronoun they, as the subject of a sentence, is in the nominative case ("They wrote a book"); but if the pronoun is instead the object, it is in the accusative case and they becomes them ("The book was written by them").

What is the word an in grammar? ›

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What is the A in German? ›

What are the German alphabet letters?
LetterName (Pronounciation)Example
ZZett (tset)Zeit (time)
ÄÄ (eh)Mädchen (girl)
ÜÜ (uuh)früh (early)
ÖÖ (ouh)möchten (to want)
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What is an à la? ›

The prepositional phrase à la comes from French, where it means “according to the,” “in the manner of the,” or “to the.” What follows “the” (la; à variously means “to, at, in, etc.”) in French is a feminine noun or adjective.

Is cat a or an? ›

a + consonant SOUND

If the following word starts with a consonant SOUND, then we say a: a cat.

Is an hour grammatically correct? ›

Should You Use 'A' or 'An'? So to answer Matt's question, “an hour” is correct, because “hour” starts with a vowel sound. People seem to ask most often about words that start with the letters H and U because sometimes these words start with vowel sounds and sometimes they start with consonant sounds.

Whats the full meaning of AM? ›

◊ The abbreviation a.m. stands for the Latin phrase ante meridiem, which means “before noon.” — compare p.m. ASK THE EDITOR.

What is U called in German? ›

U-umlaut. A glyph, U with umlaut, appears in the German alphabet. It represents the umlauted form of u, which results in [yː] when long and [ʏ] when short. The letter is collated together with U, or as UE.

What is ß called? ›

The German ligature (additional character): The letter ß, is also known as the "sharp S", "eszett" or "scharfes S", and is the only German letter that is not part of the Latin/Roman alphabet. The letter is pronounced (like the "s" in "see"). The ß is not used in any other language.

How do I type ß? ›

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What is Auf Wiedersehen? ›

a German expression that is used to say "goodbye": "Auf Wiedersehen," he said.

What does ala carte meaning? ›

/ˌælə ˈkɑːt/ If you eat à la carte, you choose each dish from a separate list instead of eating a fixed combination of dishes at a fixed price: You get more choice if you eat à la carte/from the à la carte menu.

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What Is a Du Jour Menu? Du jour menus change daily, depending on what's available or what the chef prepared. So, “chicken du jour” means the chicken that's available today. Likewise, “soup du jour” is the soup that's available today.

What language is ala carte? ›

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